If the Ulster-Scots were of anglo-saxon heritage which they were then why the anti-English feeling?
I mean in history the scot-irish were anti-english but they themselves were mostly of anglo-saxons whom were also english so why were they against eachother?
I know the scots-Irish were anglo-saxon because it was the anglo-saxons who settled in lowland scotland and from there moved to Nothern Ireland (Ulster) during the plantations and are also protestants same as the English so am just confused why they were anti-English aswell as anti-catholic.
Thanks.
I think the inhabitants of northern ireland who are of scots-irish ancestry are mainly loyal to the British crown. The reason why Ireland was partitioned was that the large majority of the people of Ulster did not want to be part of the new irish republic, they wanted to remain part of Britain. And this is still the case, so I understand.
It is not quite true to say(as a comment above does) that england did not help during the Potato famine. The prime Minister’s attempt to repeal the corn laws, to allow cheap grain to be available to the Irish people, was defeated. But the government did attempt to help, first by importing cheap maize (indian corn) into the country, though this was nutritionally inadequate compared to potatotes, then by setting up soup kitchens. However, they did not do enough. Trevelyan, the man put in charge of overseeing the relief efforts in Ireland, seems to have been inadequate, to say the least of it. Still, it is not true that the government did nothing, even though what they did was not nearly enough.
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they ,as well as the irish became slaves of the british landowners, that was one of the reasons they fought, the royal families of those eras were also to blame
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They didn’t like King George any better than our ancestors who came here to escape religious persecution. England refused to help the Irish when the potatoe famine occurred so that didn’t help any either. Many people died or lost their meager belongings during the famine. England could have helped but they refused.
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First – Richard threw "undesirables" out of Scotland and put them in Ireland (if they were lucky) – primarily in Ulster.
Thereafter – they were often transported to the Colonies (U.S.A.).
After that – the potato famine, which also can be laid at the feet of the English, sent many Irishmen here. (All the while the English were snatching up what little they had in Ireland.)
The original Scots who Richard had such trouble with were Catholic. Most remained Catholic when they came here.
Most of those who stayed in Ireland eventually converted to Catholicism.
Very convoluted history with the worst of English colonialism at its roots. They were not nice people.
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D.A.R. – One ancestor was a Catholic Ulsterman. VERY proud he helped kick the English out of the U.S. He was originally from Scotland.
It is my understanding that over the years, there has been a lot of inter mingling of the different groups in the British Isles.
During the British Civil War, most of the Scots (Presbyterians) were opposed to the Puritans and loyal to the Stuarts. The Stuarts also happened to be very tolerant of Catholics, thus the support of the Irish and highland Scots. The religion issue was just one part of the issues. The Presbyterian Scots were not forcing their views on the Catholics, although they didn’t want to live under a Catholic King either. The Puritans were forcing their views on everyone else, but at the same time, were placing democratic reforms in Parliament; albeit, they controlled Parliament. The result was massive immigration from Scotland to Northern Ireland (Ulster) and to the Colonies. After the restoration, the Scots-Irish didn’t care for James II either, and supported William of Orange. However, they viewed the new house of Hanover as a foreign government.
A great number of the Scots-Irish settled in the Southern Colonies and particularly Appalachia. They had no love loss with King George when the American Revolution broke out. However, the old cultural differences between them and the Puritans showed up as in the cultural differences between the North and South here in America. These cultural differences were one factor that lead up to the America Civil War.
Many Southerners today will tell you their ancestry is Irish when in fact it is Scots-Irish and their ancestors came here before the American Revolution. Particullary in the 1740′s.
May I recomment the book "Cracker Culture" – Celtic Ways in the Old South by Grady McWhiney.
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Uh, no. The Scots Irish are a Celtic people who were in Scotland when the Anglo-Saxons came to England. It’s not too surprising, then, that they were anti-English, since they’re not English.
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I think you will find these people describe themselves as loyalists which means that they are loyal to the British Crown. I don’t think many of them are anti- English
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I think the inhabitants of northern ireland who are of scots-irish ancestry are mainly loyal to the British crown. The reason why Ireland was partitioned was that the large majority of the people of Ulster did not want to be part of the new irish republic, they wanted to remain part of Britain. And this is still the case, so I understand.
It is not quite true to say(as a comment above does) that england did not help during the Potato famine. The prime Minister’s attempt to repeal the corn laws, to allow cheap grain to be available to the Irish people, was defeated. But the government did attempt to help, first by importing cheap maize (indian corn) into the country, though this was nutritionally inadequate compared to potatotes, then by setting up soup kitchens. However, they did not do enough. Trevelyan, the man put in charge of overseeing the relief efforts in Ireland, seems to have been inadequate, to say the least of it. Still, it is not true that the government did nothing, even though what they did was not nearly enough.
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I don’t believe the Ulster-Scots identity themselves as Anglo-Saxon as you have stated, or they would be Ulster-Anglo-Saxon or something of that nature.
Also, the Church of England was being enforced on others such as these Presbyterian Scots. They weren’t all the same religion even if back in time they all came from the same place.
See things on Bishops’ Wars and Wars of the Three Kingdoms.
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Who was in lowland Scotland before the Anglo Saxons? Who drove them out of Scotland…come on…think? Once you’ve done that, come back & ask your question again.
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Clue…i’m from lowland Scotland, but don’t EVER call me an Anglo Saxon unless you want a fat lip (LOL)!